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Career Advisor's Background and Career
Information
Background
Name: Tim Kelly, MD
Career Advisor for: Pediatrics
Title(s): Associate Clinical Professor of Pediatrics. Vice Chair
for Education. Director, Core Clerkship and Intern Selection Programs.
Best way to contact (e-mail, phone?): kellyt@peds.ucsf.edu;
(415) 502-5559 (office); (476)-5943 (Doris, Student Affairs Coordinator)
Undergraduate & Graduate Degrees/Institutions: B.S., University
of Illinois (Champaign/Urbana). M.D., Northwestern University. Pediatric
Residency, University of Connecticut.
Clinical Interests/Duties: I am a pediatric hospitalist, specializing
in the care of ill children admitted to the general Pediatric service
here at UCSF Children's Hospital. We care for a spectrum of children:
"bread and butter" cases from the local community as well as very complex
"diagnostic dilemmas" referred from Northern California and Nevada.
Research Interests/Duties: Medical Education (curriculum development,
direct teaching, mentorship, etc.)
Personal Notes or Comments: I am keenly interested in the spectrum
of "career development" for trainees who are interested in medicine in
general and Pediatrics in particular. Toward this end, I am active in
things like the School of Medicine's Admissions Committee, the Pediatric
Interest Group, etc., and am available to ANY undergraduate or graduate
student for formal or informal guidance.
Career Information
1. What can students do in the 1st and 2nd years to explore and/or
prepare for this career? Join the Pediatric Interest Group (PIG)!
The mission of PIG is to expose interested trainees to the spectrum of
careers in Pediatrics through the following activities: Volunteer opportunities
- work with children and adolescents in the hospital setting and in the
community at large Panels & speakers - listen to experts, specialists,
and parents address specific pediatric issues Community resources - connect
with members of the multidisciplinary pediatric team, including doctors,
nurses, social workers, parents and teachers Career planning - meet and
shadow practicing generalists, subspecialists and residents Academics/Education
- learn about interesting research Visit the website at http://itsa.ucsf.edu/~pedig/
for more information and links. In addition, look carefully for Pediatric
Electives or affiliated activities offered by the School of Medicine (such
as Health Hut). Think broadly and creatively, but get involved in community
service that has children or children's health as an important part of
the mission. Things like tutoring or health education at a local school,
"Big Brother/Big Sister" organizations, your church group, etc., ANYthing
that gets you exposed to children and their issues so you can really know
if you want children to be the focus of your career, in whatever subspecialty
in the future.
2. What common variations exist in the length/content of residency
programs for this career? Residency training leading to Board Eligibility
in Pediatrics is usually 33 months long, done in usually 3 years. There
are some "short-track" options (2 years) for a few qualified candidates
wishing to hasten their entry into fellowship, and many residencies also
offer "long-track options" to accommodate additional time taken for other
reasons (family, health, international work, research, etc.).
3. What common variations exist in this career after training?
An incredible diversity! Pediatricians influence the health of children
in many exciting ways: in the clinics, at the bedside, in the laboratory,
in the legislature or even the courts! MANY different combinations of
these activities serve as the basis for meaningful and rewarding full
or part-time careers in Pediatrics.
4. What is a typical work day for you (or someone else representative)?
A "typical" workday for me might frighten people! Remember, there are
usually full OR part-time positions in whatever area you decide to work.
In general, people who work in "academics" have the additional expectation
of teaching and/or doing research, so this may add time and/or activities
to one's schedule. Someone working in an office or clinic may have an
8 or 9am start, an hour for "lunch" (which is often catching up on paperwork!)
and the office might see the last patient by 5pm. Many ambulatory pediatricians
participate in "after hours" activities such as an Urgent Care Clinic
or Telephone Advice on a rotational basis (every 4th to every 6th night).
5. What is the "culture" of this career? The "culture"
of Pediatrics involves compassion and caring, optimism and fun. This is
a humane profession, with an emphasis on tolerance and diversity of our
patients and each other.
6. How compatible is this career with raising a family? How is this
different for men and women? Pediatrics is very compatible with raising
a family. Two-thirds of current residents are women, and females account
for at least 50% of the active work force in Pediatrics, so the issue
of having and raising children is always on people's minds. Because of
the flexibility inherent in the practice of Pediatrics, pediatrician parents
can usually create a schedule that can accommodate parenting duties.
7. How important, individually, are each the following for admission
to a competitive program:
a.Extra-curricular/volunteer work? Very important, especially
activities that are in service of children or activities that emphasize
a leadership or development role (as opposed to just participation).
b. Research/publications? Very important if you are coming in
on the "scientist ticket", but less so if the direction you seem to
be headed is more clinical or advocacy/policy-focused.
c. Honors in third year? It would be helpful to get a few honors
in some clerkships. It is not necessary to get Honors in core Pediatrics,
but should then have Honors in some other clerkships (like Medicine
or Family Medicine).
d. AOA? Helpful, but not necessary
e. A sub-internship? Most programs expect ONE "advanced clinical
experience" (sub-i) to document your ongoing commitment to and certainty
about your career choice. The sub-i also generates a high-level, recent
and clinically-focused letter of recommendation for you.
f. An externship? Programs recognize that visiting students are
a strong pool of applicants because the applicant and program get to
know each other so well during the month, and both parties can more
reliably recognize a great "fit" for each other. "Auditions" are best
done with a specific program or geography target in mind, but doing
an away rotation just to experience a different culture is also encouraged.
g. (Other important elements to the application?)
8. What are the most important qualities or character traits for a
person in this field? Pediatricians must really like children and
families, and truly enjoy working with various ages of kids. Compassion,
a sense of humor, resilience and being able to handle being humbled by
people much,much smaller than you are also helpful traits! It is extremely
helpful to be tolerant and flexible, and to really keep an open mind about
what constitutes a "family", as there are many variations on the family
unit that clearly promote the health and well-being of the child.
9. How competitive are the residency programs in this field? Popularity
of all primary care disciplines is cyclical, and therefore competition
varies. At the present time (2003), statistically, competition for matching
a residency training position in ANY Pediatric program is not as competitive
as other fields in that there are often a few more positions offered than
there are U.S. graduates applying for them. Although competition for some
of the more geographically popular or "top" programs can be intense, UCSF
students have historically done very well in securing a top choice residency.
10. How competitive is the job market after residency?
11. What programs would you consider to be in the 1st tier, 2nd tier,
and 3rd tier? Almost every accredited residency in this country provides
a truly excellent education, otherwise they would lose their accreditation,
as all programs are thoroughly audited every 3 to 5 years. There are currently
198 accredited residency training programs in Pediatrics. The issue is
often about how well a resident "fits" with the mission and culture of
the program and vice versa. Size, academic rigor, location, "reputation",
the physical plant and how happy the residents are with their program
are all variables that should be considered when thinking about what is
a "top" program for YOU. Some medium-sized, less well-known programs that
put the entire educational focus on residents (as opposed to diluting
that focus with fellows) are often some of the best programs in the country.
Medium to large programs (which usually guarantees sufficient clinical
breadth and depth) that are intimately connected to a highly reputable
medical school are often considered "top tier".
12. What resources (web, books, etc, besides the AMA and AAMC sites)
would you recommend for students interested in learning more about this
field? The single best resource for students to learn more about the
field is in the American Academy of Pediatrics webpage. The main page
is http://www.aap.org (browse around...it's
amazing!), then follow the link through the "Professional Education" button
on the top of the page to "Pediatric Career Information" and then choose
"Pediatrics 101: Facts, Figures, and Assorted Intangibles". The direct
link is http://www.aap.org/profed/peds101.htm

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